MELE.BR FY2026 Q2 Earnings Call Transcript Date: 2026-07-29 Source: Financial Modeling Prep Philip Ludwig : Welcome everyone joining us today for the Melexis second quarter 2026 earnings call. I'm Philip Ludwig, investor relations director, and with us today are CEO, Marc Biron and CFO, Karen Van Griensven. Earlier today, we published our press release and presentation, which can be found on our website. We will start with some brief remarks on the business and financials before taking questions, starting with Marc Biron. Marc, the floor is yours. Marc Biron : Thank you, Philip. Hello everyone, welcome to this earnings call. Let me share some brief performance highlights before handing over to Karen for the financial overview and outlook. To start, I'm pleased to see that Q2 sales has developed well and came in ahead of our outlook. We have seen customer orders increasing as we have progressed through the quarter. We are seeing good growth, particularly in position sensors, a core Melexis strength, where we are able to address demanding automotive requirements such as steering and braking with both magnetic and inductive sensors. Those products are also gaining traction with robotic customers. We see also growth in motor drivers for thermal management application in cabin and under the hood, but also in robotic joints. Next to improving top line, we grew margin, and we are in line with our first half 2026 outlook. Melexis continues to bring innovations to the market with three new products in Q2, designed to address automotive customer needs. In automotive lighting, we have launched a chip with a DCDC converter. This product architecture reduces the cost of the module of our customer and improve the module robustness against electromagnetic disturbances. We have also launched a world premier switch for contactless detection of up to four positions. It can be used, for example, in seat track positioning, allowing a more accurate inflation of the airbag to protect the passenger, it therefore contribute to the better safety. We release a digital current sensor to ensure signal integrity in demanding noisy environment. It is particularly important because electrified powertrains evolve towards faster switching technologies such as silicon carbide and gallium nitride. Also in power electronic, I'm happy to see the strong interest we are receiving for our snubber. This is a great example of our innovation team bringing solution to customer challenges. We will continue to invest in R&D to ensure that our product pipeline continue to grow. I will now hand it over to our CFO, Karen Van Griensven, to provide more details on our financial results and outlook. Karen Van Griensven : Thank you, Marc. Sales for the second quarter of 2026 were EUR 217.3 million, an increase of 3% compared to the same quarter of the previous year, an increase of 7% compared to the previous quarter. The euro-U.S. dollar exchange rate evolution had a negative impact of 1% on sales compared to the same quarter of last year, and no impact on sales compared to the previous quarter. The gross result was EUR 87.9 million or 40.5% of sales, an increase of 6% compared to the same quarter of last year, an increase of 9% compared to the previous quarter. R&D expenses were 13.8% of sales. G&A was at 6.7% of sales, and selling was at 2.2% of sales. The operating result was EUR 38.6 million, or 17.8% of sales, an increase of 8% compared to the same quarter of last year, an increase of 16% compared to the previous quarter. The net result was EUR 30.8 million, or EUR 0.76 per share, a decrease of 19% compared to EUR 37.8 million or EUR 0.94 per share in the second quarter of 2025, an increase of 33% compared to the previous quarter. With regards to the dividends, the Board of Directors decided to pay out an interim dividend of EUR 1.3 gross per share. The Melexis shares will start trading ex-coupon on October 13, 2026, opening of the market. The record date is October 14, 2026. Turning to our outlook, Melexis expects sales in the third quarter of 2026 to be in the range of EUR 220 million-EUR 225 million. For the second half of 2026, Melexis expects sales to be between EUR 445 million-EUR 455 million, with a gross profit margin around 41% and an operating margin around 18%. All taking into account a euro-U.S. dollar exchange rate of 1.15 for the remainder of the year. For the full year 2026, Melexis expects CapEx to be around EUR 40 million. This concludes our remarks, and we can now take your questions. Philip Ludwig : Thank you, Marc and Karen. For the Q&A, please ask one question and one follow-up at a time. If you have more questions, you can rejoin the queue to pose those questions. Operator, can you give the instructions, please? Operator : Good morning. Ladies and gentlemen, if you wish to ask a question, please dial pound key five on your telephone keypad to enter the queue. If you wish to withdraw your question, please dial pound key six on your telephone keypad. The first question is coming from Aleksander Peterc from Bernstein. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Aleksander Peterc : Yes. Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. I just have a first question on guidance. Then I'll have a follow-up. On guidance, we see the second half guide that is nicely ahead of consensus, both sales and gross profit, but less so at the EBIT level. I'm just trying to understand, is there something in the OpEx block that is holding back profitability expansion at this stage? That will be just my first question. The follow-up. Thank you. Karen Van Griensven : The gross margin is improving. Operating margin is also improving. We have some inflation to reckon with, certainly in the wage inflation that is impacting the overall leverage possibilities. Nevertheless, we are further working on our roadmap for growth and EBIT margin improvement. We will see that further expand also moving ahead into next year. Aleksander Peterc : That's great. Thank you. As a follow-up, could you help us understand what's going on in terms of pricing? We saw competition raising prices earlier in the year. Melexis had the seasonal decrease in prices at the beginning of the year. How do you see pricing evolving from here? Do you have any prospects, you as well, to raise any prices at all, or is it just flat from here on into year-end? Thank you. Marc Biron : Yeah. We did not increase our price indeed earlier in 2026. We are now just starting the price negotiation with our customer. It's about price and volume, and we want to give priority to volume. For the time being, before the end of 2026, we don't plan to increase the price because we want to honor our engagement with the customer, and we value, let's say, the long-term relationship. Aleksander Peterc : Thank you very much. Operator : The next question is coming from Janardan Menon from Jefferies. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Janardan Menon : Hi. Morning. Thanks for taking the question. When I look at your guidance for the full year, it's still relatively low growth compared to some of your peers, what they're reporting in their automotive business. It's still only around 3%, and even by Q4, you're guiding only at about 6% year-on-year growth. Your tone has clearly become more bullish in this set of results than in previous quarters. I'm just wondering, do you think that you're just starting your engines a bit late in terms of your recovery from the inventory correction, and do you see this momentum continuing to build as you go through? Like many of your peers yesterday, NXP reported 17% year-on-year growth on automotive. Do you think as you recover from an inventory correction, you could hit higher numbers in incoming periods? I have a follow-up. Marc Biron : As you mentioned, indeed, the momentum of 2026 is better. Let's say we have, I would say, less headwind now than in the past. The inventory headwind has faded away. We have a better cost of yield, a smaller cost of yield, and we have a better cost of the product. I think we are also gaining new business, clearly on the position sensor in automotive, in the position sensor for the steering and braking. I do believe that in the near future, we'll also gain new business on the lighting product and on the driver's product. As you mentioned, we are more optimistic now than six months ago. Janardan Menon : Okay. Let me ask you. Marc Biron : Yes. Go ahead. Janardan Menon : Carry on. Go. Is the order momentum strengthening every month, or has it strengthened and sort of staying at a higher level right now? Marc Biron : I would say the visibility of the order did not improve. It is still there for five months, we see also more dynamic in the order. For example, we do not see any push-out. We see more push in, pull in, sorry, than push out. From this perspective, let us say the order dynamic is more positive. Janardan Menon : Understood. Karen Van Griensven : In general, the cycles do not run always at the same time. We usually tend to get out of a cycle later than our peers. That is also correct. Janardan Menon : Understood. Then on the humanoid robotic side, you have made some very encouraging comments on your first half sales and your second half order trend. Given your design wins and the fact that some of these companies are finally converting those designs into orders right now and revenue, do you think robotics could become a meaningful contributor to revenue next year? When I say meaningful, let us say at least EUR 10 million of revenue, as a starting point. You think that is a possibility looking at the current trajectory? Marc Biron : For sure. Since Q2, we have now real business. We have real order. As you mentioned, the opportunity is translating in design win, now the design win are translating in real revenue. This is fact. We see that Q3, in term of order, Q3 is higher than the Q2, I think the positive movement is ongoing. When you say EUR 10 million in 2027, I would say it is a bit early to say, for sure it is moving up. Janardan Menon : Understood. Thank you very much. Operator : The next question is coming from Ruben Devos from Kepler Cheuvreux. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Ruben Devos : Thank you. I just had one on what you're sort of seeing from the distributors and the Tier Ones. What are they sort of actually consuming versus what they're ordering from you? How wide is that gap right now? I think we've seen a bit of a sector recovery because of restocking rather than very strong end demand. The question really is how do you see a bit the sell-in versus the sell-through at this point? Marc Biron : From what we see from the distributor is that the inventory is quite flat. There is no increase of inventory. The inventory are, I would say, low and flat. Karen Van Griensven : The same is true for our direct customers. Ruben Devos : Okay. All right, regarding inventories, I guess these came down to EUR 270 million, from EUR 300 million at the end of last year. I think in April you were quite clear that you expected inventory to build in volume terms through 2026, because I thought you mentioned you were competing for some test and assembly capacity because of AI server demand. Yeah. With inventories down, curious what has sort of changed. Did some of the demand take up some of the stock, or that capacity worry has faded? What changed? Marc Biron : The inventory went a bit down for two reasons. The first reason is, we have adapted, let's say, the inventory to the wafer price. The second reason is indeed, we had a bit more order than expected, and we have consumed the inventory. I would say for the reduction of inventory, half is due to the consumption and half is due to the adaptation of the inventory. Karen Van Griensven : Revaluation. Marc Biron : Revaluation, thank you, of the inventory. For the future, we will probably re-increase the inventory to come back to the previous level. Ruben Devos : Okay. Just a final question, regarding China. Can you just give us a sense of how the region performed year-over-year in the second quarter, and whether the volatility you talked about earlier this year has now settled down a bit? Marc Biron : Yeah. Q2 was quite good in China, even very good in China. What we see in Q3, it will be even higher, Q3 will be higher than Q2, even probably a record level, let's say, in China for Q3. What is, at least for me, important to note is that the increase in our China business is mainly, if not only, for Chinese customers. Those are really the local customers that are driving the growth in China. Ruben Devos : All right. That's it for me. Thank you. Marc Biron : We see really the results of our, what we call the China strategy, where we optimize our support to the Chinese customer. We localize our supply chain in China. We see that this is bringing result. Karen Van Griensven : In design win. Marc Biron : Yeah, also- Karen Van Griensven : China is also going very strong. Ruben Devos : Okay, great. Thank you. Operator : The next question is coming from Amelia Banks from Bank of America. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Amelia Banks : Hi. Thank you for taking my question. My first question is just on the competitive dynamic. How would you say, in the quarter, and how you're seeing it for the rest of the year, the competitive dynamics have been within a few of your peers acquiring some sensing portfolios in the past 12 months. Are you seeing any impact on that? How is that impacting your outlook as well? Marc Biron : From a competition perspective, I don't see a big change. If we compare the competitive aspect versus six months ago, it did not change, I would say. As we mentioned, the main new competition is in China as I just answered. We see good results in China. As Karen mentioned, good design win level. We are following the expectation for the design win in China. We will probably reach the target. Q2 was good. Q3 will be good. From a competition perspective, I don't see a big change. Amelia Banks : Okay, amazing. Thank you. Just secondly, on terms of the cost of yield, I'd wonder if you could quantify how much benefit you saw in the quarter and how much is implied in the second half guide, and just how much of that do we still have to work through with the inventory and sort of roughly how long do you feel it will take to work through the impact of the cost of yield? Karen Van Griensven : The big increase or the big move up was in Q1. We are benefiting from this throughout the full year in the first place. There is still potential to further improve our cost of yield in the next year. We are continuously working on that. What we guide for now is what we have already reached. It's not really at risk. With what we know today, this is the result. Amelia Banks : Amazing. Thank you so much. Karen Van Griensven : Does that answer your question? Amelia Banks : Yes. Perfect. Thank you. Operator : The next question is coming from Francois-Xavier Bouvignies from UBS. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Francois-Xavier Bouvignies : Thank you very much. I just wanted to come back on China, that you see strong momentum in Q3. Can you clarify a bit what products do you see particularly doing well in China? When we look at the end demand in China, the domestic Chinese car sales, whether you look at EVs or non-EVs, are down significantly in H1. Of course, you have these overseas exports doing well. Even if you combine both, it's barely growing. How do you translate these strong China numbers with actually the end demand? Do you think it's market share gain or refill of inventories because they were low? It seems very difficult to believe when we look at H1 end demand data. Does that make sense? Marc Biron : It makes sense as a question for sure. I confirm that indeed, probably overall in China, there is no growth. The export compensate more or less barely the internal market. We see different aspect. We are gaining some market share in China. I have clearly some example as position sensor that we have been able to increase since the beginning of the year. As I mentioned, I do believe that before the end of this year, we will also gain market share in lighting product and also in drivers product. Current sensor is also quite promising in China. It's also linked to the energy problem. We see a big growth in the solar panel business in China. You probably remember that we deliver current sensor for the solar panel business, and those are the different areas where we are growing in China. Karen Van Griensven : The sales in China are much more built on the growth drivers. We have a much bigger share of our growth drivers in China than in the rest of the world. Obviously, these growth drivers grow faster than the rest of the business, so that helps a lot. Francois-Xavier Bouvignies : Great. How much of your China production is done in China actually today or maybe this year and next year? How much this China for China is actually happening? Marc Biron : We should separate the answer in two. There is first what we call the OSAT and the assembly and test. For the assembly and test, we have more and more product that we assemble and test in China, mainly our lighting product and our latch and switch product. The second aspect is wafer itself. For the wafer itself, we are much lower. We are using one wafer fab in China. On this wafer fab, we have one current sensor, which is now we are finalizing the qualification at the customer and at Melexis, and we will launch it second half of this year after summer. For the time being, actually, today the ratio is quite limited, especially for the wafers, but the idea is to grow it during the next years. It's a kind of journey, I would say. Francois-Xavier Bouvignies : Is that fair to say that the China for China, the benefit will be more therefore maybe next year or two years rather than now because it's actually not happening yet? Marc Biron : Yeah, it's happening for the assembly and the test. For the wafer, it's not yet happening. It will start to happen later this year, but as you mentioned, it will grow up year-after-year. Francois-Xavier Bouvignies : All right. Thank you. Marc Biron : what is important for us is that our customer recognize that we are serious with our China strategy, and that we are building up this China strategy concretely. Francois-Xavier Bouvignies : Makes sense. Thank you. Operator : The next question is coming from Marc Hesselink from ING. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Marc Hesselink : Yes. Thank you. My first question is actually following up on the gross margin. I think, Marc, for the long run, you always have a target of around 45% gross margin. Now we can see the improvements on the yield and also a bit on the volumes and first benefits of China. How do you see the building blocks to get from the 41% in the second half of the year towards the 45% into the more longer term? What still needs to happen for you to get there? Karen Van Griensven : We are actually further executing our roadmap that we also presented on the Capital Markets Day. We will see some further results in 2027. For instance, moving our footprint east, is adding cost in 2026, but we will see the benefit of this move, the financial benefit in 2027. Cost of yield is another parameter we continue to work on. The product mix is also gradually helping to improve our gross margin. Year-after-year, we expect some further improvement in gross margin based on all the activities we are working on. Of course, some operating leverage as we grow will help as well. Marc Hesselink : Okay. That's clear. My second question is on the difference that you see in inventories at your customers, depending on the drivetrain. Is there major differences given what we see in end markets? Marc Biron : At least not visible to me. I don't see the difference indeed from a drivetrain perspective. Marc Hesselink : Okay, thanks. Operator : The next question is coming from Guy Sips from KBC Securities. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Guy Sips : Yes, thank you. Most of my questions were answered. I have three small add-ons. First is on your order book. Do you yourself have the feeling that your visibility is improving, and can you give us an indication to what extent? The second question was on one of the previous questions. You mentioned design wins on lighting. Do you mean interior lighting or also exterior lighting? The third question is on robotics. You mentioned specifically substantial growth in both China and the U.S. I think first time you mentioned U.S. here. Can you elaborate a little bit on this? Thank you. Marc Biron : Yes. On the first question about the visibility, no, I would say the visibility does not improve. It's still four or five months. We don't have full visibility till the end of the year, I would say. No real change on this. Karen Van Griensven : Yeah. Marc Biron : Still very short term. Karen Van Griensven : Yeah, we also don't have allocation issues like some of our peers. From that perspective, we don't see yet order behavior changing very much. Marc Biron : Yeah. On the lighting, on the design win or the market share increase, it is interior lighting. It's only interior lighting, I would say. On robotic, yeah, indeed. The opportunity and the design win and the sales, it's China and U.S. The real increase that we see in Q2 and Q3 is even more coming from the U.S., which is I think one of the first design win that we have received one year ago, I would say. It was, I think, in September of last year. It is for a humanoid robot coming from the U.S. This is mainly on this aspect, this design win that I refer to, it's a position sensor for the joint. We know that in the humanoid robot, there is a huge multiplication factor because there are a lot of joints in the robot. We benefit from a big multiplication. This is for this product, but we see also growing the drivers for the joint because the joint must be actuated, and we provide driver to actuate the joint. We have also some business growing for these drivers. Now finishing with the tactile sensor to give the sense of touch of the robot. We are still in opportunity and design win phase. We have different maturity level, let's say, in the pipe. The position sensor and the drivers, we are at design win status and revenue. For the tactile sensor, we are more one step behind. Opportunity increase and design win. Does it answer the question? Guy Sips : Okay. Yes. Thank you. Operator : The next question is coming from Michael Roeg from Degroof Petercam. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Michael Roeg : Good morning. First question is a follow-up on the inventories question for Ruben. Did I understand correctly that there was a EUR 10 million inventory write-down in the second quarter? Karen Van Griensven : Inventory write-down? No. I don't know where you Michael Roeg : Well, it- Karen Van Griensven : There is a revaluation, that's not an inventory write-down. So revaluation at a new prices. Michael Roeg : Okay. Is that meaning that wafers were originally at a certain price in your inventory and then later on at a different price, and that is a EUR 10 million difference? Marc Biron : Exactly. Indeed. Yes. Michael Roeg : Okay. That's clear. Good. Just wanted to clarify that. The second question I have, your receivables went up in Q2 by almost EUR 20 million. Karen Van Griensven : Yes. Michael Roeg : It suggests perhaps that the second quarter sales were stronger towards the end of the quarter than at the start of the quarter. If that would indeed be a nice exit rate, I'm a bit puzzled by your modest growth in Q3. Karen Van Griensven : We have gradual ramp-up. June was particularly strong, that also has to do with holidays and so on. Q3, there is seasonality a bit. Yeah, it's not always spread equally month-from-month, I would say. Michael Roeg : Okay. It's just monthly swings that cannot be extrapolated in terms of growth for Q3, apparently. Karen Van Griensven : Absolutely. Michael Roeg : Is that the case? Karen Van Griensven : Absolutely. Michael Roeg : Okay. Karen Van Griensven : We will continue growing- Michael Roeg : That's clear. Karen Van Griensven : ...quarter-after-quarter. How strong that will be exactly, we've given a range. Michael Roeg : Yeah. No, that's clear. No, it's just that I felt, well, with the receivables trending up that maybe there's some sort of an interesting exit rate, well, yeah, you alluded that it was indeed swings from time to time. That's it from my side. Thank you. Marc Biron : Thank you. Operator : The next question is coming from Nigel van Putten from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Nigel van Putten : Good morning. I have a quick follow-up on pricing. I think you said that you're not raising prices this year, because you want to honor agreements with the direct channel. Correct me if I'm wrong, 30%-35% of your revenue is still going to the distribution channel. I think others in the sector have said that it's easier to push through price increases in this channel. Can you maybe provide a little bit of color if that's something you do intend to do or if there's other factors to take into account? Thank you. Marc Biron : It's something that we did not do. As I mentioned, we are in this pricing negotiation and volume discussion that we are just starting. We will wait the end of all those negotiation and discussion to decide. Nigel van Putten : There's also- Marc Biron : Decision has been taken. Nigel van Putten : No decision. Let's say if you take a decision, would it be fair to say that the direct channel is more of a annual first quarter cycle, while distribution can be a little bit more tactical? It's more on your end to make a decision and push it through, or again, am I just misinterpreting something here? Thank you. Marc Biron : Yeah, we can indeed. I agree with you that for the distributor, we are a bit more in the driving seat, at the end of the day, we need also to have volume. At the end, there is also end customer after the distributor, and we want to grow our volume, and we want to be market competitive to grow volume. Yes, we are a bit more in the driving seat, as I mentioned, but there is always an end customer who needs to accept to pay for the volume. Nigel van Putten : Right. Of course. Maybe a quick one. Pricing, I think last quarter you came out and sort of talked about pricing and lighting being a bit of a headwind. Is that something you expect to continue in the second half and into next year just because of maybe comps might have to do with that revaluation of inventory, etc? Any color there would be helpful. Karen Van Griensven : Your question is on the headwind? Nigel van Putten : On the cost. Karen Van Griensven : That we don't have more leverage, or? Nigel van Putten : Well, yeah, sorry. Maybe the pricing in terms of the lighting products, I think last quarter and increasingly it seems like that is maybe a more difficult spot in the portfolio in terms of price competition. I just wondered if there's any relation to that revaluation of inventory and if we should expect headwinds to continue in this particular part of the revenue based. Marc Biron : There is no relationship between the revaluation of the inventory and the pricing of the lighting? The revaluation of the inventory is really revaluation given the new wafer price. Yeah, for the lighting product, indeed, there is competition. If we come back on the competition, there are competition. We are also proposing now product with a better cost structure, because we have designed a new product. If you can refer to the product launch that we have made recently, we have launched some new product in those domain with a better cost structure. With those products, we are gaining market share. Karen Van Griensven : Yeah- Nigel van Putten : Understood. Very helpful. Karen Van Griensven : ...where the comment is coming from, that our product mix will also help moving up the gross margin because we launch products with higher margins. For lighting. Nigel van Putten : Understood. Thank you very much. Operator : The next question is coming from Martin Marandon-Carlhian from ODDO BHF. Your line is now open. Please go ahead. Marc Biron : Hello, Martin? Martin Marandon-Carlhian : Yeah, sorry, I was on mute. Hi, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. My first question is on capacity. Do you feel that your customers are more worried about some tightness in the automotive segment, because power AI is taking some capacity away? How do you think you are positioned with X-FAB as your main chip maker, if, let's say, AI creates more tightness in the industry and other flows? Marc Biron : We have indeed some question from customer about our capacity because indeed, some of our peers have some difficulties, I would say. It's indeed an increasing concern. We are very well-positioned with X-FAB because X-FAB is a mainly an automotive supplier. If you remember, we have finance capacity increase with X-FAB some years ago, we have some capacity available at X-FAB in the different technology, I would say. There is, from Melexis perspective, no concern about the wafer capacity. About the assembly, it's a bit more tight, but we give good forecast with our assembly partner. We have good relationships, also we have pay attention to move our own inventory after assembly to make sure that we have enough product and we have enough headroom, let's say, related to this assembly. Karen Van Griensven : Yeah. Strategically, high inventory is definitely also an asset. Wafer capacity together with a strategic inventory is definitely helping us a lot today. Marc Biron : Four, six months ago, when we have heard the first warning signal from the assembly house, we have pay attention to move all our inventory after this bottom. Martin Marandon-Carlhian : Okay [inaudible] Karen Van Griensven : We expect our inventory to increase as there was a drop now, but strategically, we want to keep it at high levels, higher than what we have today. Martin Marandon-Carlhian : Okay. Thank you. My second question is on the data center opportunity. Could you maybe give a bit more color on how meaningful the opportunity for current sensors for power application in SiC and GaN is? Is it, for instance, materially more meaningful than the opportunity for fan drivers for cooling, for instance? Marc Biron : We are launching many products for the data center. In Q1, we have launched a smart driver for the data center. In Q2, we have launched a pressure sensor for data center. This pressure sensor will be used or can be used in all the water cooling or liquid cooling, thermal management. In Q2, we have also launched another drivers for the data center, for the thermal management. Those are for data center, what we call 12 volt, meaning the traditional data center. Beginning of next year, we will launch a driver's 48 volt, which more fit the AI data center. I should not forget the snubber, because we have also a lot of traction for the snubber in automotive, but also for the AI data center. I do believe the snubber will be also an important piece for the data center in the future. Martin Marandon-Carlhian : Okay. Thank you very much. Marc Biron : In terms of opportunity, it is meaningful. In terms of revenue, not yet, but we are working on it. Martin Marandon-Carlhian : Okay. Very helpful. Thank you. Operator : There are no further questions at this time, so I hand the conference back to Marc Biron for any closing remarks. Marc Biron : Thank you, operator. To summarize, we are seeing good momentum in 2026 with positive trend in customer demand and share gains. We see growing opportunities in automotive and in robotics, and we are making progress on our cost roadmap. We look forward to updating you on our next result to be published on October 28. Thank you for joining the call, and goodbye. Operator : Thank you for joining today's call. You may now disconnect.